Recently I interviewed Dr. Irene Cop, as we chatted about one of the biggest thyroid healing roadblocks, and below is the written transcript. If you would prefer to listen the interview you can access it by Clicking Here [1].
Dr. Eric Osansky:
With me, I have Dr. Irene Cop. How are you doing, Dr. Irene?
Dr. Irene Cop:
I’m awesome, thank you, Dr. Eric. How are you?
Dr. Eric:
Doing well.
Dr. Irene:
Thank you for having me here.
Dr. Eric:
You are very welcome. Thank you for joining me. We’re going to dive into Dr. Irene’s bio, as she is the founder of the Stress to Success Shift Institute. Dr. Irene helps purpose-driven high achievers shift from stress to success in all areas of life: their career and wealth, health and energy, relationships and personal life. Dr. Irene’s background and expertise extends to both Eastern and Western medicine, holding dual doctor degrees as a medical doctor as well as a Doctor of Chiropractic. She has extensive training in acupuncture, neuroplasticity, elite performance psychology, stress management. Dr. Irene is a globally sought-after speaker, neurophysiological meditation instructor, and host of the internationally acclaimed podcastThe Stress to Success Shift. Thanks so much for joining us.
Why don’t we start out by discussing a bit of your background, and how you ended up creating The Stress to SuccessShift Institute?
Dr. Irene:
I would love to. I was so happy that you asked me to be a guest on your podcast because of your specialized audience, as it is one that I have found really needs this message. How I started on this journey: I was already a doctor. I was a single mom of two young boys, four and six years old. I thought I had the world by the tail. I was doing it all. I was Superwoman. I was running my full-time practice. I was on the PTA board of directors. I was on the board of directors for the business association. I was running a whole local festival that drew hundreds of thousands of people. I was doing it all. I thought everything was great. That’s what thought did. As you know, Dr. Eric, there is a reason they say doctors make the worst patients.
What I didn’t know is that I was physically burned out and had developed a physical condition that caused me to lose consciousness while I was driving up in northern Canada. I live in Canada. I was driving to visit a friend and lost consciousness. The road curved, and I drove straight into a three-story rock face. It’s very common up there. My two sons were in the car with me. My youngest son had a catastrophic brain injury and had to be airlifted to the nearest sick children’s hospital in Toronto, three hours away. My six-year-old son had PTSD because there were adults throwing up at the scene because of what they witnessed. I ended up with 10 broken bones and a mild brain injury. It was during the first SARS quarantine. COVID is a SARS virus. Take COVID, except the first SARS was even more severe.
I was in hospital on quarantine with these 10 broken bones. Worse than the physical pain of the 10 broken bones was the emotional and mental pain that I was experiencing, suffering. I almost killed my young sons, the two people I cared about more than anything in the world. The guilt, the shame, the remorse was just- I was spiraling down. I was drowning in quicksand. My inner judge and jury had already convicted me. “What kind of mother are you? What kind of doctor are you for not knowing? What kind of monster are you for hurting these two beautiful souls?”
It took a couple weeks before they even decided my youngest son was going to live. After they decided he was, this top neurosurgeon in Canada said, “He’s never going to walk or talk. He’s not going to pass high school.” I am getting this news while lying all broken in my hospital bed. I was getting news on the other side that my six-year-old son was basically kicked out of school for the remainder of the year because he was threatening to hurt others and himself. The anger that was pouring out of him. It was truly the darkest point of my life. It literally was.
Then it got darker, surprisingly. Somehow, even though I couldn’t have visitors, I was served with legal papers. My ex-husband sued me for full custody of our children, saying I was a danger to them and an incompetent mother. I was lying in this dark hospital room, bawling my eyes out, tears streaming down my face. Why me? Why? That inner judge and jury agreed with my ex-husband. “I am an awful mother. I don’t deserve them. In fact, I am a danger to them. I almost killed them.” This dialogue was swirling around inside of me.
Finally, I realized I have a choice. I can either continue to spiral down and roll over and give up and say, “You’re right. I don’t deserve them. Here, take them. You’ll do a far better job.” We had joint custody before that. Or I realized I could give myself the grace of understanding that what I had experienced, the physical burnout, was something that was a silent pandemic that has killed far more people through the years than COVID. It’s hidden and accepted and encouraged and expected by our culture that we have to achieve to be worthy, that we have to give until we’re bled dry. It’s this gauntlet mentality of we don’t have what it takes if we’re weak, if we’re lazy because we’re tired. That shame, that stigma, associated with burnout. Obviously, we don’t have what it takes, and we should just give up and crawl away intoa corner. Better yet, man up. Suck it up. Take it like a man. Guys hear this. Women have our own version of it.
Irecognized that far from being alone, hundreds of millions of people, now we can say billions, are burned out. Over 90% of people are burned out in some areas of the workforce. It’s not just workplace related. COVID has shown us that. It’s our personal lives when life throws its curveballs like COVID. Guess what? We don’t just have to worry about us getting sick or our family getting sick; parents still get Alzheimer’s or cancer. Maybe we get diagnosed with breast cancer or prostate cancer. Our kids fall down and break legs. We go in and out of lockdowns, and we have to homeschool our children and juggle our own home/work life as well. It’s only gotten worse.
What I realized that day was that with my education and my personal experience, I was the perfect person to lead the charge on eradicating burnout. I call it flameout syndrome because burnout is only supposed to be workplace related. I have been on a mission ever since to help as many people in the world as possible avoid suffering what my family and I suffered. We should have died, and we didn’t. That is the background story.
Because I refused to accept that prognosis of my son being able to walk, talk, or pass high school, I went looking for the answers. I went back to school and got my medical degree at that point. I took six or seven certification courses. I got certified in brain injury so I could talk to all the experts in brain injury, so they would have to pay attention to me. I went looking for all of the answers. Spent years doing it.
I am happy to say both of my sons are doing great. My youngest son not only walks and talks, but he is also in his fourth year of engineering at one of the best schools in Canada. I cried tears of joy when he was accepted. It wasn’t easy, and it wasn’t just one simple decision. It’s been worth it every single step of the way.
What I realized was what helped my family and I heal were the very steps I’ve applied to other patients because I was still in physical practice and helped them get the so-called miraculous results that others weren’t getting. I became known as the go-to, last resort doctor. That’s not arrogance in saying it. I worked hard to find those answers and to become that person with those answers. It’s not rocket science. It’s energy efficiency. Really, truly, that’s what it comes down to.
When you remove all the energy efficiencies, we have this amazing innate genius in our body that allows us to heal and can heal ourselves. I don’t heal anybody else. I am no longer in physical practice. I now do it virtually with my programs and group coaching and some 1:1 coaching. The beautiful part is I am not doing it for anyone in my community. I am giving them the tools and showing them how to heal themselves. True success to me is in all areas of your life. You can’t have true success in your career and your wealth if your health and energy is down the toilet. Same with your relationships. That’s not true success. You have to have it everywhere in all parts of your life.
Dr. Eric:
That is so true.That is a traumatic story, but everything thankfully turned out okay with you and your sons. I’m glad they’re successful and healthy. You turned your life around as well. It’s one of those things where I dealt with Graves’, and now I help people with autoimmune thyroid conditions. You help so many people through your experience with burnout and helping them become successful.
Your case was an extreme stress situation. There are a lot of situations out there like that. But there are also everyday chronic stressors as well. In those situations, there is only so much we could do for the actual stressor. Getting into the perception, would you agree that a big part of handling stress, handling burnout is trying to change the environment and the perception of the stressor?
Dr. Irene:
Absolutely. I always say true success is an inside out job. Dealing with stress is as well. Dr. Hans Selye considered the father of stress—he coined the terms “stress” and “fight or flight”—he did all the research showing the physical effects of short-term, middle-term, and long-term stress. Even he said, and I will paraphrase him, “Stress is neither good nor bad, except thinking makes it so.” In other words, stress, when it’s used right, is our body’s high-octane energy. It is our superpower. They always talk about that stereotype of a 98-pound mother who lifts a car off her pinned child because the stress and the fear for her child gives her that strength in the moment. You couldn’t pay that woman millions of dollars to do it any other time. It’s in the moment, and it’s using her high-octane energy. That’s the beautiful part about it.
Our stress response is a beautiful part of what makes us amazing. It’s not just us. We share it with the animal kingdom. Stress response is our survival mode. We all have our different ways of being hardwired. Just as a gazelle runs when faced with a tiger, or a honey badger turns and fights, or a rabbit is paralyzed and shaking in fear, or a possum falls down and plays dead, we humans have the same hardwired responses. We either flee, fight, freeze, or faint, the four F’s. That part is a very necessary mechanism. It’s what has kept us alive for the most part and allowed us to survive so well through the millennia.
Where it becomes unhealthy is we are the only animals that we know of in the universe where we can continuously think about what happened in the past. Because part of that survival instinct is to think pessimistically, we don’t tend to focus on the glory days when we think about the past. We tend to focus on that fight I had with my spouse, or the thing my boss said to me, or the trauma we have suffered. When we dwell on the past, it’s all of the things that went wrong.
By the same token, we are the only animals who can focus on the future and future pacing. Again, part of what we instinctively, up until now, have been raised with is that negativity, that cautiousness. We don’t tend to think about how things are going to go well for us in the future. Our automatic default is to think about how things are going to go badly. Am I going to be able to pay the bills? Am I going to get sick? Am I going to be alone for the rest of my life? When we worry, that’s future pacing, and it’s negative. We are the only ones who can dwell on the past and worry about the future, which is both negative. Bothof those ramp up our stress response.
Then you add on a huge dollop of COVID. We literally are not getting a break. We are living in our stress responses. Unlike the gazelle that, hopefully if they make it clear of the lion or tiger, and they’re not meat for somebody, within about 20 minutes, after all of the stress neurotransmitters are used up and leave the system, they literally just shake it off and go back to grazing. They don’t stand there shaking with fear going, “What if there is another lion? I can’t believe what happened. I almost got eaten.” Gazelles don’t do that. We humans do.
A lot of what you’re talking about, we bring it on ourselves. I say that with all the love in my heart. We are continuously being chased by that lion, that tiger. We are constantly barely surviving in stress and survival mode. The challenge with that is that it’s really great for when you’re in the short-term. You have the adrenaline. That is the gazelle running away or the 98-pound mother lifting the car. It’s not meant to last for hours. The adrenaline is a short-term, high-octane juice.
Then your cortisol hormone ramps up. That is your marathon. It’s a hormone. It’s not a neurotransmitter. A neurotransmitter is a chemical messenger that happens in milliseconds. “I gotta do something now.” The cortisol takes more time to ramp up, but it’s that, “Okay, a den lion is not going to leave me alone. I gotta keep going.” It’s not as high-octane as the adrenaline, but it does the trick as far it’s meant to, which is keep you alive as much as possible.
The challenge again is that it’s only meant to be for a relatively short period of time, to allow you to get to safety so you can rest and relax and recuperate. The challenge is that if it keeps going, the long-term effects of having the cortisol hormone running through our body, it massively creates havoc. One way it gives our bodies enough juice to keep going is that it ramps up blood sugar. You pack on the pounds, which can lead to high blood sugar and diabetes, which can lead to heart disease and cardiovascular disease. It also ramps up blood pressure, which can lead into cardiovascular disease. It messes with other hormones of your body, like your hypothalamus and pituitary. Guess what? There is the thyroid hormone. Your thyroid is the metabolism. “I need more. I need more.” It can lead to problems like crappy sleep. It messes with your hormone balance. It causes inflammation in the body. Inflammation in the body is that derangement of the immune system where it goes all wonky. You get allergies that maybe you didn’t have before, or you haven’t had in years. Food sensitivities are another one. Of course, autoimmune conditions like Graves’.
In other words, I know you and I have talked about this in the past. I have talked with other experts of other autoimmune conditions. It’s wherever your weakest link is, whether it’s Graves’ or Hashimoto’s or multiple sclerosis or rheumatoid arthritis. I could keep naming them. It’s an autoimmune condition that happens because of this stress response. There is very typically trauma at the root of it, whether it’s massive trauma or cumulative micro-traumas. This is how chronic stress and our bodies’ way of trying to deal with it causes and greatly aggravates autoimmune conditions. I’m sure your community has found that if they were undercontrolled before, all of a sudden, things are out of wack, and they are coming to you with questions.
That is how the chronic stress directly leads to the development of Graves’. If it keeps going, you end up with adrenal exhaustion, where you have nothing. That is where it can get a whole lot worse from there physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Dr. Eric:
Thanks for making that connection. That is one thing I wanted to discuss with you, so you beat me to the punch. You dove into the connection between stress and autoimmunity. It’s not just Graves’, but pretty much any autoimmune condition. I can say from my own experience that stress was a big factor in the development of my condition. Emotional stressors played a role. Overtraining in my case put a lot of strain on the adrenals. I did adrenal testing.
I do a lot of adrenal testing with my patients. We confirm that cortisol levels are not looking good. A lot of people have the depressed DHEA levels. Not only will that dysregulation of the HPA access (hypopituitary adrenal axis) lead to that pro-inflammatory state. Another mechanism with autoimmunity is that you have that increased intestinal permeability. When you have the high cortisol levels, that can decrease secretory IGA, which lines the mucosal surfaces of the body, including the gastrointestinal tract, so that could be a factor in causing a leaky gut. It could maybe not directly cause autoimmunity but at least be a contributing factor. Thanks for making that connection.
When it comes to trauma, you mentioned there are different types of trauma. I’ve heard you in the past discussing them. Could you elaborate more on that?
Dr. Irene:
I’d love to because it’s such a huge factor. I loved how you tied it all together with the physiological side of how stress impacts Graves’ Disease. Trauma can be physical, mental, emotional. That may sound strange to say.
A physical trauma, I’ll give an example after I broke the 10 bones. Not only was I already burned out, but I was 35. I’ll be vain and say I didn’t look 35. Somebody had brought in a picture for me of my sons and myself. It had only been taken a few months earlier. It was sitting on my hospital table. An orderly came in. He looked at me, looked at the picture, and goes, “Is that you?” I said yes. He said, “You looked so young then.” Aside from the fact that obviously somebody didn’t teach him he wasn’t supposed to say that to a woman, he was right.
I had aged 10 years overnight. That is the physical impact of breaking 10 bones. My hair went darker. I have a picture afterward when I was able to sit in a wheelchair, and my back is to the camera. If I hadn’t known it was me, I wouldn’t have recognized me because my hair was a dark brown. It literally changed it. People will talk about that when they go through chemotherapy, and their hair will go curly or straight, or they will lose it, or it will go dark. It’s interesting how our body will respond to physical trauma.
Then there is the mental and emotional trauma. I’ve had people say to me, “I’ve never had trauma.” Oh, okay. Let’s talk through it and see. Often what they mean is that they don’t have trauma they recognize as being trauma. That can happen in a number of ways. In the extreme—and I have had this happen because I had an abusive childhood due to a father with PTSD—I didn’t remember anything before the age of eight. It was a survival mechanism, and it’s well-known in the literature that people have amnesia after trauma. They have selective memory. They don’t remember. Or it may be that it was considered acceptable, so it wasn’t considered to be trauma.
A good example of this is abuse. Physical abuse. Until not that long ago in relative terms, in the UK, there was a law—this is where the phrase “rule of thumb” comes from—that a man could not hit his wife, children, or animals with a stick bigger than this thumb. That was humane. It was in the law. In that time, women were considered chattels. Children were considered chattels. Property. It was not only accepted that a man might beat his family, but it was expected that he should keep them in line. Another phrase, “Spare the rod, spoil the child.” Even though at some point, women gained the right to vote and were no longer under the law considered “property,” old programming dies hard. There have been a lot of generations down since that time that grew up with, “Well, that’s just the way things were. You got whacked with a belt or a rod.” If a wife didn’t get dinner on table in time, she got whacked. There is a huge part of our programming that may still be telling us that’s not trauma.
Or it may be the micro-traumas. Instead of one big event, how about a bunch of little traumas wearing you down? It can be even the anticipation of trauma, shown in vets who were waiting to be deployed to Afghanistan. They didn’t even have to go. The future pacing, the worrying. They were already there in their minds. There was that fear, that negative anticipation of “Any time, I could get called up. That will be that phone call or email.” You’re constantly on tender hooks. That’s another way that personal trauma can happen.
Then there are two other types of trauma we are just starting to learn about. One is intergenerational trauma, which is where our parents, our grandparents, anyone who raised us, the trauma they went through, they teach unconsciously their fear responses and physical reactions to the trauma they had as children. That would be a case where a mother is afraid of spiders. “Eek!” The child learns to go, “Eek!” As they are being a sponge and downloading all of the programming as a child, there is no filter. They download the good, bad, and ugly. Bring it on. Load me up. Trauma that we didn’t personally experience ourselves.
Now they also realize there is something I call epigenetic trauma in PTSD. Your forbearers, your ancestors, went through trauma, and it modified the expression of the DNA, your genes. They have shown that fear responses can be transmitted down even without having direct contact with that person. Physical conditions can become part of it as well, where they show that offspring of people who have gone through trauma have a higher mortality rate and increased physical diseases than their siblings who were born before. Same family, same household. The only change was that one was born after, so the DNA was modified and then transmitted.
That is an area that is just on the cutting edge of what they’re learning about. They know it goes back at least three generations. The reality is they don’t know how far back it goes. When you look at just the past 100 years of what our ancestors have gone through, on a global scale, a couple world wars, at least one great depression, multiple other wars, slavery, Aboriginal mistreatment. That is not even including the personal traumas that have happened in lives. You can look at cultures, countries, your personal family, and go, “Wow, what trauma am I being impacted by that I don’t even know about that has set me up for failure physically, mentally, and emotionally?” That is why in my programs, I devote a huge part to releasing that trauma. It is a massive energy vampire that is sucking the energy right out of you so that you don’t have that opportunity to heal.
On top of that, without you even realizing it, it’s putting you into survival mode. You are unconsciously continuously living and reliving that trauma and the impacts of that trauma. You may be aware of it, or you may not be aware of it. All of that leads to that chronic stress, that adrenal exhaustion, which can then lead to Graves’.
Dr. Eric:
Pretty amazing, the connection. If someone is dealing with a current stressor, whether they are a caretaker, or they have a job that is stressful and they are not in a position to leave the job, compared to someone where the stressor was in the past. It’s a past trauma, but it’s still an issue. Whether it’s a trigger for Graves’ or a different autoimmune condition, or preventing them from recovering, is it a similar approach regardless of the nature of the stressor, or whether it was a past trauma?
Dr. Irene:
Yes and no. I am a firm believer that awakening awareness is 80% of the battle and the solution. It’s not to say that you can’t heal without it. Dr. Eric, I know you are a phenomenal doctor, but even you might have those clients where no matter how right the treatments are, they are just not getting better. There is an example of where you can be doing everything right, just as before I crashed and burned, I did everything right. I ate right, slept right, exercised. I was a meditation instructor, so I taught it and did it. I did all of that. I was still set up for failure by these energy vampires. You can do the right nutrition, take the right supplements, work on the hormone balances, do all of that right, and that’s important. Absolutely. If somebody still is not getting better, and this is why I still kept looking for those answers, if somebody is not getting better despite the best treatments out there, then there is something else at play, whether you recognize what it is or not.
There are two approaches. You can do a general elimination diet of trauma and stress, where you use the tools to work through how you’re feeling. “I’m feeling anxious. I’m feeling low. I’m feeling despair. I’m feeling hopeless. I’m angry.” You can work through that. In my experience, the more that you can drill down and get to the root cause, the more likely you are going to pull out the whole weed, the whole thorn that is sticking you in the side, where you can truly heal. Otherwise, it may take longer. For somebody who has had trauma in the past, and they know what it is, or we work together through it to figure out what it might be, then that is incredibly impactful.
For somebody who is going through current, or they are worried about the future, that actually canbe even more challenging. When you are feeling powerless, when you feel like life is being done to you—and let’s face it, most of the world is feeling that way right now—you are unwittingly the victim in your story. People don’t like to think of themselves as victims. It means simply that. You are not in control. You feel powerless. As long as you feel powerless anddon’t recognize that you have the ability to change your situation, and if you don’t believe that you can change, then you can’t. It comes down to choice and choosing to know that you have that ability first and foremost. Otherwise, you are in a cage of your own making. It’s that learned helplessness.
I love the analogy, not how it came to be, but how they train adult elephants to stay put. The biggest land mammal in the world. They start out as a baby, and they put this big, heavy, honking chain around their leg. They will bolt it into cement, and the baby elephant will try pulling and pulling, and they can’t get free. After a while, they stop trying. They get to be an adult elephant, the biggest, strongest in the world, and all they have to do is tie a little rope to it and maybe even attach it to a chair that is not bolted down. That elephant won’t even try to get free. That is learned helplessness.
Unfortunately, whether it’s because of our programming or our experienced trauma or the adversity that taught us we were powerless before so we don’t try now, or maybe a belief. I had a patient say to me once, “I’ve been diagnosed with prostate cancer.” I said, “How do you feel about that?” They said, “I was expecting it. All of the men in my family get prostate cancer. My father had it. My brother had it. I knew it was only a matter of time before I got it.” There is the biology of belief, as Bruce Lipton would say. It also adds to the victim. That learned helplessness, why even bother trying? I can’t do anything about it anyway.
It’s the awareness that makes the difference. The key for the victim is awakening awareness to go, “Wow, it doesn’t have to be that way.” This one tiny shift. Now what?
Dr. Eric:
You help people to overcome that learned helplessness. I do recommend for most of my patients mind body medicine techniques such as yoga, meditation, deep breathing. Some people are religious about doing it, and some people don’t do it. Some people might do it randomly. Either way, it sounds like it goes way beyond doing meditation. For a good number of people, that might be enough.
As you said, let’s say they are incorporating mind body medicine techniques, and they are doing everything, which happens with all practitioners, where people will reach a roadblock. This learned helplessness is something people should look into. I’m sure it comes to a relief to some people listening to this. I can imagine how frustrating it is for someone who is actually doing everything: following the diet, doing mind body medicine, and everything else that is recommended, and they still are not healing. Thank you for sharing that.
Dr. Irene:
Absolutely. I am a neurophysiological meditation instructor. I love it, and I love yoga, and I advocate for those mindset practices, like gratitude and appreciation. There is so much you can do to help yourself. And that is conscious-level.
The major roadblock that I talk about in my Five Steps to Shift from Stress to Success Blueprint is that when you are in stress, in survival mode, it literally wipes out your prefrontal cortex. That is the fancy word for the part of your brain behind your forehead. That is what I call your rockstar executive team. It’s what is responsible for being able to think straight, think logically, make good decisions, remember things, come up with creative solutions, be motivated to take action, just take the action, and very importantly, emotional inhibition, so you are not crying at the drop of a hat and flying off the handle at loved ones or coworkers. That is all the very important functions that are wiped out when you are in survival mode.
All we have to do is look around the world to see that most people are in survival mode right now. A lot of the anger and fear and polarity that we are seeing right now is that survival mode. People are either going to their hardwired, they want to fight, or they are afraid and shivering in fear. That is not a judgment in the slightest.
As long as your executive team is offline, then mind/body practices, you are not likely going to do them, and they are not going to work. It takes conscious thought to think, “I am going to be grateful right now. I am going to be mindful right now and actively appreciate what’s going on.” You are in survival mode. You want that to happen. You want the prefrontal cortex to be wiped out so you can go into your hardwired survival mode, whatever that happens to be. It’s not the time to sit there and go, “There is a lion approaching me. Should I run? Should I fight? Should I freeze and pretend he doesn’t see me?” No, you need to go into whatever survival mode you are suited for. That’s the good part about it.
That’s why I teach what I call lovingly SOS tools, to get to that unconscious level so they can then kickstart- It decreases down the stress response so that you have that reset, that relaxation, just like the gazelle, so your rockstar executive team can kick back in. Then you go, “It would be a good thing for me to meditate today.”
Everything I teach, and perhaps what is different about what many others do, is that I focus on the unconscious level first. That is where your survival mode is. It’s deep down in that primitive part of your brain that you share with all other animals. It’s like an iceberg. Yes, the part that is sticking out of the water looks majestic and beautiful. The reality is the massive bulk of the iceberg, which can be the most dangerous part, as the Titanic found out, is hidden underneath the water. That’s like your unconscious mind. Every tool I teach is about blasting away at the underside to release it so that it’s done in the fastest, easiest, most powerful way possible. I am an impatient person. I go looking for things that give you the results yesterday as much as possible.
That is the difference. Yes, I agree with you. If there is anyone listening who hasn’t been getting the results, maybe you’re frustrated. Maybe you’re impatient like me. Maybe you’re to the point of feeling despair, that there is no hope. “I am always going to be stuck with this.” The fear of it getting worse. “What is my life going to look like?” Just know there is hope. There are tools. Many clients have seen those so-called miraculous results that I look at and go, “It’s just energy efficiency. We have improved the energy efficiency.” That’s all it is.
Dr. Eric:
Thank you so much for sharing this information. You mentioned a blueprint. Can you let people know where to get that blueprint? Feel free to share your website. Remind them of your podcast. You also have an upcoming bootcamp as well. A lot of information, but if you could share where to find it.
Dr. Irene:
The Five-Step Stress to Success Shift Blueprint is the five steps that I realized that my family and I needed to go through to heal, which is part of success. Then I used them with so many other people as well. Each of those five steps allow you to shift, pun intended, from stress to success. If any one of those steps is out of line, and you haven’t taken care of it, then that will be a major roadblock. I have also recognized, because as I said, I did everything right, and I still developed catastrophic flameout syndrome. I realized that what set me up for failure were those energy inefficiencies: the faulty programming, the fears, trauma—I had a lot of trauma—the self-sabotage patterns that were at play.
I have a workbook that your audience can download. It’s awakening awareness around your success blocks. Remember, I said awareness is 80% of the battle and the solution. Because I realized that this was something that was so needed, I created a four-week bootcamp called Retrain Your Brain Bootcamp. It’s four weeks to shift from stress to success. It’s all about clearing the biggest, baddest of each of those four areas: the worst programming glitches I have seen in most people, the big fears, the sabotage patterns, and the personal, intergenerational, and epigenetic trauma. There is a group starting on January 17 as well. That will be led by another doctor who is one of my team members. I will be there as well. That is an opportunity to truly start digging down deep and finally once and for all releasing those energy vampires o you can heal and have the best, most successful life possible.
Dr. Eric:
If they are not ready yet to dive into that, there is the podcast, too.
Dr. Irene:
Yes, I have my own podcast. Dr. Eric, you will be on there soon. We will be flipping the tables on you. That is the beautiful part about it. We all bring value. My podcast is called The Stress to Success Shift. There is the Awakening Awareness workbook they can do around their success blocks. My website is DrIreneCop.com. You can find me on social media as well.
Dr. Eric:
Thanks again, Dr. Irene. Appreciate the time and all the information you provided.
Dr. Irene:
It’s been my pleasure. Thank you so much, Dr. Eric.